http://x_dominion.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] x-dominion.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] xp_journal2008-10-28 08:26 pm

Apocalypse

Apocalypse is now in SHIELD custody, charged with a list of crimes that took most of the field office to write it all up. It'll be a while before he goes to trial anywhere; there's overlapping jurisdictions involved, and they won't move him until they've got a solid analysis of his powers so he can't pose a danger to the court or be an escape risk. Safe to say, it's very unlikely he'll be anywhere other than a cell for the rest of his life.
xp_daytripper: (armour for the soul)

[personal profile] xp_daytripper 2008-10-29 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
So we're there to do your dirty work? Nice. And what would have happened if one of us had tried? X-Men don't kill, but they stand around and watch while someone else does?

[identity profile] x-cable.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Now, here's a conversation that's just all kind of productive.
xp_daytripper: (all grown up)

[personal profile] xp_daytripper 2008-10-29 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Message received and understood, Nate.

[identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 04:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Or they stand around and punch them when they're down. There's my two cents.

[identity profile] x-cable.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It's funny, but I don't recall you having a better idea as to how to counter his power at the time, Guthrie. Also, those who want to cling to the niceties of morality would be best-advised not to volunteer to go into war zones.

[identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god, stop agreeing with me. It makes me depressed when we come to the same conclusions.

[identity profile] x-cable.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, we can't have that.

[identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I know. I think I need to get myself checked for a concussion or something.

[identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't say aything about getting him down. but keeping him down when he's already not going to move, well, yeah, then there's a problem. It isn't clinging to 'nicesties of morality' but knowing when to stop.

[identity profile] x-cable.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I would ask you just when he was down for the count, then, based on your extensive experience in such situations, but I don't think even today I could do that with a straight face.

[identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
By standers don't need to have 'extensive experience' to know when someone's done. Stop rubbing that in, just because I'm not on some "Fuck yeah Team America" doesn't mean I can't see when the people I know fly off the bend.

[identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
This was a guy who was responsible for destroying who knows how many square blocks of real estate in one move, raising a skyscraper from the ruins, and survived the collapse of said skyscraper.

I for one am not going to apologize for whatever level of force it took to take him down. The argument of "excessive force" is a luxury that a lot of people don't have, on account of the fact that this crazy bastard and his people executed them in an act of outright genocide.

As to whether or not Apocalypse himself should have been put down - after what he took, I'm not certain that's even possible. But I'm sure SHIELD will make the call on that one.

[identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah but there's force and then there's enough, you know? Compassion and excessive force don't share the same sentence, but to me, compassion should come out on top.

I know I'm not much of a fighter but I was weirded out by how much a lot of people enjoyed themselves in the heat of the moment.

[identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a difference between "making sure someone who's intending to harm you stays down" and "sadistically enjoying it".

I'm not saying there aren't people who fall into the latter category. But don't tar everyone with the same brush. It was hell out there, and that kind of thing gets into your head.

[identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying everyone was singing the same song, but a lot of 'em were.

[identity profile] x-siryn.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I like you. You can come sit next to me. (No, really, can you come see me please?)

[identity profile] x-siryn.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
When you can. I'd like to see you is all.

[identity profile] x-icarus.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay. Let me find something to eat first.

[identity profile] x-sanfuaiyaa.livejournal.com 2008-10-29 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, because that is exactly what I said.